In states that ban assault magazines LMAO (stupid fkin term), the 45 would certainly be advantageous. Putting aside all the technical factors of shot placement, mag capacity, etc, the truth is that when the poop hits the propeller blades, youre being silly to worry about the 8th, 9th or successive shots. Again, YMMV. With the Glock 48, you're getting a pistol that's almost a quarter of an inch more slim than the Glock 19. LENGTH BETWEEN SIGHTS: 150 mm/5.91 in. The factory magazine from the Glock 21, with a capacity of 13 rounds, will function in the Glock 30. The real danger is that the only way I have found to get an FN 5.7 is through inheritance as I cant find any private sellers. I missed the paper with BOTH guns two times out of ten. If you properly train and place your shots where they need to go (the A zone, upper chest or center of head), the only person getting killed is the assailant. taking the extra 0.5 second to get it round on target seems like a wise thing to me. The so-called assault weapons ban goes much further. I can group a lot better with my GLOCK 17 than I can with the ranges sample GLOCK 21. Partial to a 45 and may swap my 19 but not concerned. This is the equivalent of the Glock 17, in a more compact form. It is considered one of the best semi-automatic pistols today, due to its robustness, reliability and ease of use. Mostly thanks to the durability and reliability of these striker-fired pistols. After perhaps tens of thousands of injuries and deaths, of soldiers with fouled, non-functioning weapons, did anyone see the light and correct those problems. The 30SF is my all time favorite hand gun..by far. One can argue the best Glocks in all their offerings are their 9mm pistols for their excellent ammo capacity. He retired and managed to avoid prosecution. Just goes to show. I subscribe to the adage of putting as much hurt on the attacker as fast as you can. The video shows that the .45 was waaaaay more flippy than the nine, and yet your accuracy was the same. I think the older readers on the forum will take all this caliber stuff with a grain of salt. The .45ACP was to provide a more modern cartridge that would stop a man, literally in his tracks, at a time when suicidal attackers proved that with determination, focus, and a few seconds, they were highly effective at killing officers, often in broad daylight. I am the same way, but I always figured it was since I learned on and always shot 45s. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Some dont issue at all. Built for the Army Modular Handgun System competition. As for sub-machine guns, grouping them in with handguns is comparing apples to oranges. Whoa. No, really. and travels at approx. It has something to do with their special plastic. If operated within design parameters, it works well. I wont argue against your choice, its not my decision to make. Im not saying this is the case with you, you just said a comment that I have heard all to often. The G21 is the full-size duty gun GLOCK in .45 ACP. You might be right, but then again, giving the bad guy the extra 0.5 second to get his round on target seems like a scary thing to me. For example, theres a four-hour class and no shooting test. I too live in MA and agree about how absurd it all is. I like to carry the Glock 20SF-it absorbs the 10mm recoil very effectively. But then Id be more interested in control and accuracy. It was put upon me that real men carry .45s, and that a Glock 21 was was I needed. Youre gonna use the 19 and youre gonna get yourself killed. First, I was startled to hear that its only a matter of time before I use my gun to defend my life. Ammo can be really usefull. Glock introduced their 5th Generation (Gen 5) handguns in 2017. Edit: Looks like they use both best I can tell. But if theres a new high capacity mag in there, well, Welcome to Massachusetts. Shooting the .45-caliber G30SF, I perforated the paper with a 6.5 group. Requests were made to develop a cartridge in .45 caliber. I carry either Winchester 175 gr Silvertips or Hornady 180s. I know they started using the P226 in the 80s, but I thought they had dropped it for the HK45. The Glock 19 9mm pistol is one of the most popular concealed carry pistols available. 770 fps and 208 ft/lbs of energy . I understand both camps of thought and in all the years ive had them I still cant decide which I prefer. All the rest were to keep the bad-guys head(s) down while you got back behind cover. Previous Post Next Post I've been experimenting with a Bladetech 5.11 retention holster for our T&E (Testing and Evaluation) Gen4 Glock 19. How do these two handguns stack up against eachother? O OleManDan Registered Joined Jan 31, 2014 Might not be MA compliant, but hey, you can buy two for what a FiveseveN costs. When I told Eddie at AFS that I was carrying the Mass-compliant 10-round 9mm G19 in the new holster, he freaked me right the f' out. MEU(SOC) pistol (a modified 1911) (.45 ACP) MEU(SOC) They may not have, I dont keep up with anything SEAL since 90% of what you will find is made up info from SEAL wannabes. It's only roughly 3cm taller than the G26 (eyeing it not actually measured). Anyway I have always been a gun swapper and got to love glocks in the last year at age 74. Just wanted to add my experience with the Glock 30. Call it a draw. Used to have a 36 but it had too many fte's for me to be comfortable with although it was 100 % with self defense loads, at the range with regular ball ammo was a different story. I found it took appreciably longer to get the 30 back on target & that the recoil was much sharper than that from a 1911 or the Glock 19. I never would have expected that. Glock 30SF: The 30SF is a version of the Glock 30 that uses a Short Frame lower which is based on the standard G30 frame (same width), but reduces trigger reach from the back of the grip by 2.5 mm (0.098 in). Why dont you just go ahead and carry 4 rounds in your magazine? I don't carry mine but if I did, the 30s would be my choice. If you want to figure how fast a bullet is traveling you multiply its speed in feet per second, (fps) by 3600. to get miles per second, and divide by 5280 to get miles per hour, (mph). I can own a 4th gen glock but really cant WTH. Im amazed that anyone can miss at five yards, even at rapid fire. BARREL HEIGHT: 32 mm/1.26 in. I agree with Eddie (he knows what hes talking about) and Ive owned a few 9s and got rid of them all. And to everyone who preaches the idea that You wont need more than 3 (Or what ever) shots, the rest dont count let me ask you a question. . Im not recoil shy at all, but the G36 is like a jackhammer in hand when firing. I'm right handed, but have always moved my mag releases on Sig's and Beretta's to the right side so I can drop the mag with my finger off the trigger as well as not having to reposition my hand to reach with my thumb. Misses also countjust ask the prosecutor as he tries you for hitting an innocent bystander. Anyway, love both guns and I think in MA I would make the same decision.maybe. Psa 5.7 Rock Pistol Optics Ready W/ Threaded Psa Dagger Compact 9Mm Pistol With Extreme Carry Rock Island 1911 Tactical 9Mm 5" 8Rd Pistol. And . The Glock 19 9mm pistol is one of the most popular concealed carry pistols available. The G30 has a 3.78" barrel, an overall length of 6.97", a frame width of 1.38", and a height of 4.8". Empty weight measures 21.16 oz, same as the G19, whereas a loaded magazine makes the G23 slightly heavier in. Walther Pdp Compact Od Green / Burnt Bronze Fusion Firearms 1911 70 Series Commander Combat 45 M Elite 10Mm 4.5" 16Rd Optic Ready Pistol Springfield 1911 Prodigy 9Mm, 5" Barrel, Fo Front, We find the dealer that offers you the most money. The Glock 30 measures an overall length of 6.96 inches and possesses a width of 1.38 inches, a height of 4.8 inches, and a slide length of 6.77 inches. My aimed fire became 10 12 seconds for a 10 shot string, and was about as good as I could shoot. So Im not surprised by the outcome of the experiment in this article. Which is what I thought. It is also designed to not over penetrate yet it expands once it has entered the target ever through 2 of clothing. Im sorry but 850 feet per second is pretty fast. If you live in a state with 10 round limit then why not g26.One of the best shooting guns. End of story IMO>, i considered the Glock 19 until the Blue label program would only give me the Glock 30 SF. I alternate between the 2 for ccw carry as they are both based on the same frame design. However, many gun owners would probably agree that the sheer number of different Glock pistols in current production can be overwhelming. In 2005 I shot 32,000 practice rounds, and 25% of that was almost as fast as I could pull the trigger. If you dont like the cartridge and prefer 9mm, fine, by all means stick to what works for you, but people seem to always think .45 = full size 1911. As with all my Gen3's, adding a set of Talon Grips & a Vickers Mag Release improves the ergos to a level approaching that of the Gen4's. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. It was pressed upon me that I could solve all that was wrong with my obviously flawed character if I just bought and carried a Glock 21. Now glock has a 380 called 42 and I held it and loved it. Im right there with you on that one. It is 186 mm (7.32 inches) long, with a barrel length of 114 mm (4.49 in) and a standard magazine capacity of 17. The first 4th Generation (Gen 4) Glocks came along in 2009. Trivia for which I have no data: I wonder if, on the civilian street, faster splits are actually advantageous with < 11 rounds. A little .380! The 9mm Parabellum measures .355 across, and usually weighs about 124 gr., and has approx. I concur, repeat the test as above. Irresponsble Gun Owner of the Day: Andrew Seals, Houston: Four Armed Robbers Attempt Gas Station Heist, An Armed Customer Shoots Three, The New Henry Big Boy Revolvers at NRA Show 2023 [VIDEO], Vudoo Gun Works Unveils the New Priest Double Stack 1911. Then I think about German ingenuity and design; it just seems like they have always had a reason for what they do while also producing successful products that work well. Youre gonna use the 19 and youre gonna get yourself killed.. Colt was working on a semi-auto pistol / cartridge for U.S. Military trials in .41 caliber at that time. Here is the listing of US special operations groups and their handguns that I know of: Kimber ICQB (.45 ACP) USMC MARSOC I missed the paper with BOTH guns two times out of ten. My son has the G30S as his primary off-duty carry. (and you better have some documentation to prove it). How do these two handguns stack up against eachother? Glock 36: Thin and Lightweight Following the commercial success of the G30, Glock introduced the G36 in 2000. The Glock 19 is regarded as one of the best . I am going to buy a Glock 30 or 30s in the coming weeks. I need a picture with that comment. The Hide 12.9K subscribers Subscribe 224 18K views 4 years ago I wanted to do a short comparison video on the Glock 30. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Obviously, your mileage may vary. I tell people to carry the gun they can control best. Model are like shooting .22s. "Robert do me a favor," he said. If there is no capacity limit, the 9 may offer advantages such as higher capacity and quicker split times between shots depending on the shooter. No one who has been in a gunfight has ever commented that they wished they had less ammo! All depends on where you live. Of course, Ive been really tempted by the capacity of those new .9mms. Now go to jail. For MA residents, every town is different. . ., Shoot both guns as fast as you can. Glock 37 (G37) Standard, Full-Size Handgun. Supposedly hydrostatic shock happens when a certain speed is reached when a bullet hits a target. Now before I tell you learned gentlemen what it is, I will tell what it is not. No Glocks since early Gen3 can be sold by an FFL in MA because Glock wont go through the BS to get the guns qualified. Unlike All the rest of the web biters out there in that caliber. Fascinating. Not much room for anything else in board shorts and sandals when walking around a beach town. All Glocks should be 9mm. That would be the Sig Sauer P226 mk25. To the point where youre not running the gun; the guns running you. This video illustrates the dangers of the spray and pray philosophy. Ive shot both of these too, though not in a deliberate test as here. :-O. 835 fps. The Glock 19 has a slighter larger magazine capacity than the Glock 23. Hand timed at 2.5sec for 10 shots on the G19 (0.25sec/shot), and 2.27sec for 9 shots on the G30 (0.25 sec/shot). And the new g30s is even more similar to the 19 but is harder to shoot than the 30sf because of the lighter slide. His reply was the first two were the important rounds. the big bad .380. G19 can be whatever Gen you prefer. In terms of accuracy, there was nothing in it. When I got my 30S I posted a side by side size comparison (dunno if it was in this forum or another) with the 30s with the 9rd mag and the 10rd mag compared to my G26 and G19. The G30 is actually the subcompact version of the .45 ACP . It is similar in size to the Glock 19 and the Sig P320 but has a lot more punch than the 9mm.. If it is good enough for a police department, you know you can rely on it when you need it. Since you're a lefty, try releasing the magazine using your trigger finger, then generation means nothing. Drops like a sack of potatoes. The G30 weighs 23.81 oz. All guns should be Glocks. Even if you're facing a mob of, say, five to six people intent on disemboweling you . Also, if you do the research, the Moros were difficult to drop because they wore bamboo protective gear and old Spanish helmets in addition to being loaded up on drugs. In addition to having one fewer locking block pin and a generally smoother trigger pull, Glock Gen 5 handguns have ambidextrous slide stop levers, a new "Glock Marksman Barrel", new magazines, and lack finger grooves on the grip. He would shoot sub-seven second, 10 shot groups, that were well under 2 @ 25 yards as AIMED FIRE. To refresh, if you dont want to bother with the video: I have often thought that if stuck with a limited magazine capacity; that a larger caliber gun might be advantageous. It is used by police and other law-enforcement agencies around the US and is a common sight among "Heavy Metal" 3Gun shooters, and backcountry bear hunters looking for a little backup. As for chooing .45 ACP over 9mm, I know which gun id rather have if a genie told me id need a pistol at some undetermined point in the future. The Glock 19 is considered the "compact" style Glock. The only dimensional difference between the Gen3 and Gen4 pistols is the width (0.08"). Thus, if someone from out of state has a nonresident MA LTC-A, they can bring their new Glock to MA. They include: The Glock 19 uses the 9 mm round while the Glock 23 uses a .40 caliber round. The Glock 19 would be advantageous in states that allow for magazines above 10 rounds. I think Masterpiece Arms is coming out with a MAC-11 clone in 5.7 for $500. Slow fire practice wont translate into faster fire when you want to. The 30S is my EDC because the slide is thinner but I like them both obviously. Heres what you do . Granted the m-16 family of rifles have undergone reliability overhauls year after year since its introduction (as well as a day late and a dollar short), but this one example doesnt leave me very trusting to why things are introduced within the U.S. Anyways, the 9mm works and works well as I am sure it has had the necessary testing. This has no bearing on your test, just on the 'splits' issue. The Gen4 design of this small easy-to-shoot package combines a shorter trigger reach with a great magazine capacity. Just then, the tacticool gentlemen next to me butted in with some unsolicited advice. I have the G30 Gen 4. Robert Farago is the former publisher of The Truth About Guns (TTAG). for 356 ft/lbs. I completely agree. (Ignoring .22 target pistols) The recoil from a .45 is what a handgun should feel like to me, so other calibers are always weird to my hand. When the magazine is inserted they are equal grip length. Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. The 26? Drum roll please, it is, (Are you ready for this?) Not Glock O:(, not S&W O:(, Ruger O:( (? Me too. Go figure. Capacity Standard: 10 Optional: 9 / 13 Barrel Length 96 mm | 3.78 inch Weight without magazine 675 g | 23.81 oz Weight with empty magazine 745 g | 26.28 oz Weight with loaded magazine 955 g | 33.69 oz Trigger Pull 28 N Dimension Even then a 2 shot derringer is better than nothing. I prefer the recoil of .45 to every other typical carry handgun round. The first and possibly second shots are the ones that will count most, and in this regard, one should care enough to send the very best available option downrange. GLOCK 30. M1911A1 (.45 ACP) Army I have no issues whatsoever with the decision. The flip comes back down faster than most people shoot. Awesome! He went all empirical on me. I ran a MA-compliant mag through both Glocks at five yards as fast as I possibly could, sight picture be damned. There are 15 round and 10 round mags available-I carry interstate under HR218 and while HR218 credential holders are exempt from mag capacity andrestrictedammo laws Id as soon avoid problems with LEOs who havent received proper training. Where is the accompanying boob pic? Its a real crapshoot. Otherwise, Ill take the higher capacity of the 9mm. I dont want to drop another 550 on a 40 cal piece Plus, the 9mm ammo is priced to shoot. When it comes to the MA nonres permit, it seems that if the applicant has a permit in his home state and the homes states requirements meet or exceed the MA requirements, then MA will issue a nonres permit. The Compact models are slightly reduced in size and have a smaller magazine capacity. 10+1 rounds of DoubleTap 10mm. For IWB carry is the 30s more comfortable than the 30? Its also interesting that the MA requirements arent very strict. 9mm is cheaper. Built for the Army Modular Handgun System competition. Cheaper ammo = more practice time. This is as good or silly a test as any, I suppose. Buy the best GLOCK gifts and collectibles for your office, outdoors, and range. This is especially true for handguns from different generations or those chambered in different calibers. One is a Colt, the other a Sig Sauer. With the gosh 3.5 tripper puller., Ill take the head shot a seven yards. And I havent had many volunteers to stand at the business end of a 9mm or .40 cal. Its all about how well you are able to control the muzzle rise. And the rest of you as you were. The P30 comes in other trigger options, not just DA/SA. If you think .38 ammo is not effective, look up the picture of Lee Oswald as he gets hit in the side(.38) point blank range. The Sig p238, and the Colt Govt. Having both the G30 and G19, I can tell you without any hesitation that I can hit more accurately with greater speed with the G19. The two pistols both have an overall length of 6.88 inches with a barrel length of 3.77 inches. Also most major citys police SWAT Teams and the FBI HRT also use a .45ACP. Since there is not a difference between the two calibers, I would not hesitate in recommending the 45. This is particularly true when discussing consealability. Being a responsible gun owner means proper training and to regular practice. COPYRIGHT 2023, WOMG. Glock G19, Gen 4 Shooters are of different physical and hand size, strength, and all have different hand/ eye characteristics. Todd Jarrett teaches a nice bit on that. They really have a guilty until proven innocent standard of proof here? As I shoot twice weekly going through an average of 100 rnds per session I have actually found the PERFECT firearm for me. Bill, this may mean little in the bigger scheme of things, but it's worth considering. It measures 7.36" x 5.04" x 1.26" overall, with the Glock's "signature" boxy shape. Glock 21 SF (G21 SF) Full-Size Handgun With Short Frame, Glock 21 Gen 4 (G21 Gen 4) Standard, Full-Size Handgun, Glock 30 Gen 4 (G30 Gen 4) Sub-Compact Handgun, Glock 30 SF (G30 SF) Sub-Compact Handgun With Short Frame, Glock 30S (G30S) Sub-Compact Handgun With Short Frame And Slim Slide, Glock 41 Gen 4 (G41 Gen 4)Modern Competition 4th Generation Handgun, Glock 41 Gen 4 MOS (G41 Gen 4 MOS)Modern Competition 4th Generation Handgun with Modular Optic System (MOS). The loaded weight of the 30s is 3 oz. If I had to replace it I'd get another G30 Gen. 4. On the other hand, if the same guy with the same gun and the same license were to buy a Massachusetts pre-ban hi-cap mag and stick it in said gun, well then, they are golden. I have both the G30 Gen3 and the G30S. Note: Glock currently produces semi-automatic handguns chambered in seven different cartridges:9x19mm Parabellum (aka 9mm Luger),.357 SIG,.380 ACP,.40 S&W,10mm Auto,.45 ACP (aka .45 Auto), and.45 GAP. The G17 takes generous 17-round magazines and the 19 holds 15 rounds, meaning no compromises on capacity. Had 1911 and love them too. . The state handles non residents. Both the Glock 19 and Glock 23 . I was just going to read these posts for their entertainment and educational value, and then ST had to push my button. I was lucky enough to find a pre-ban 13 rounder for my G23 that didnt cost an arm and a leg. You have entered an incorrect email address! Finally, Glock has updated their handguns several times during the course of their production industry. Glock 19 vs. Glock 23: Specifications. The Standard models are full size handguns with a large magazine capacity intended for FBI, law enforcement and military use as a duty/service pistol or for general use and self defense by civilians. Now try out the next logical step, the Glock 29sf, 10mm power with the exact same size, capacity and just .7 ounces heavier. Enjoy: I have the 30SF and it is pretty much the same size as my 19 and 23, just the thickness of the slide. I've owned the G30 Gen4 and the G30Sthe G30S to me feels much lighter and carries easier in my OWB holster (I bet it would be even better with an IWB) My preference is for Gen 4 Glocks, but if I had to buy a G30 right now, I'd have to go with the G30S, even though it's a Gen 3. And the light was bad. Both are chambered. 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