rivarossi 60' passenger cars

I bought a set from the same vendor a couple of weeks ago. Where I disagree is that their diesels weren't any good. On the 18" line I did run them forward and backward and no problem, I also ran them through one turnout. You never really specified which kind you were buying, so the responses were all over the place. We'll follow up with any questions or to make an offer. At the club our mainlines have a 36" minimum radius, but I believe that the Oregon Trunk branch line and the Logging division may be 30" minimums, which still doesn't help You. Add To Wish List. The RPO and Baggage were also approximate 60' size. I am getting a four car set of 60 foot cars. Riva Rossi presents the iconic Pullman 60 ft. passenger coaches that ran for many decades all over the country being pulled by early diesels and steam locomotives from the 1920S through the early 1950S. 2d 20h +$15.00 shipping Sponsored Rivarossi 2335 - 2340 6 Passenger Cars NMRA 50th Anniversary HO Scale Pre-Owned $169.15 Was: $199.00 15% off Buy It Now +$17.50 shipping Free returns Sponsored Ho Scale Rivarossi SP Passenger Car Pre-Owned $34.00 or Best Offer I was wondering if the sets offered by Trainworld at $30 were the same, but never got through to staff to find out, the line was always busy. Does anyone know for sure what the prototypes (if any) for these cars are? The earlier runs of Rivarossi locos have the pizza cutter flanges that will not run on any track smaller than code 100 (the track that comes with trainsets). I just bought them. I would guess that due to the weight of the cars with all the hardwood construction, no more than 5 or 6 were ever in a single train. The window material is inset so they are "flush" with the exterior wall of the car. I'll just add that a few years back I modified my Rivarossi Budds with metal wheels and filled the cavities in the underframe with BB pellets which were covered with glue. If you look around Walthers also had a 3 coach set bundled with a passenger set. At one time, I had four sets of four Rivarossi 60' passenger cars. $1200 IHC 9052 RIVAROSSI HO INTERIOR FOR ROOMETTE SLEEPER 4 WHEEL 1930 PASSENGER CAR $1200 Train Interior Rivarossi AHM IHC 1920's Duplex Sleeper Passenger Car HO Scale $2500 Passenger Seating Car Coach Interior For MDC Roundhouse HO Scale Overton Coach Gray $800 HO Train 50' Combine Passenger Luggage Car Interior Roundhouse MDC $1200 To my knowledge, neither the ATSF or CB&Q used 60' heavyweight combines or coaches. IHM and AHM are sorta-kinda related, but not exactly. They are advertised to handle 18 inch curves, and they do. I believe all of the 'old' Rivarossi (AHM)cars first offered in the 1960s were full 80' length, except for cars (like say the head end cars and heavyweight coaches) where theprototype car was shorter; they weren't 'shorties' like say Athearn passenger cars. I thought the original trucks looked good enough to use, although for a time IHC offered a better quality replacement truck that was very nicely detailed, but also with 31" metal wheelsets. Reply Their best known cars date from the mid 1960s. Mike. They are very much underweight. Those with the distinctive inset bottom sill are Santa Fe: diner, combine and maybe observations? RIVAROSSI HO SCALE U25C DIESEL LOCOMOTIVE (#266188039026) d***r (61) - Feedback left by buyer d***r . While I do add weight to pretty-well everything that runs on the rails, I experimented with making my Rivarossi "heavyweight" cars into true heavyweights. . Late run Rivarossi, ie the red box era, commonly have can motors, RP25 flanges on all the wheels and usualy run the best of that brand, early stuff can be made to run well, flanges can be turned down carefully(the wheel centers are plastic) and remotored. Picture . Dyson V8 Animal+ Cordless Vacuum | Purple | Certified Refurbished, Swiss Gold 20 Francs (.1867 oz) - Helvetia - BU - Post 1933 - Random Date, Great Britain Gold Sovereign (.2354 oz) - King Edward - XF/AU - Random Date, $2.50/Mo Red Pocket Prepaid Plan: 200 Talk 1000 Text 200MB, March of the Machine Collector Booster Box - MTG Magic the Gathering - New! I've been doing some reading and have learned that most people replace the wheels and or trucks. Good to know. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Rivarossi was an Italian model train company founded by Allessandro Rossi and Antonio Riva in 1945 in Como, Italy. Between these cars and the upcoming Branchline coaches (actually shownat the RPM meet in Cocoa Beach last weekend! Pre-owned. Walthers Mainline is ranked #1 out of 12 ho scale model train passenger cars manufacturers, followed by Bachmann, and Rapido Trains Inc.. Products of HO Scale Model Train Passenger Cars 1-20 of 600 Sort by: Popularity 1860-1880 Coach Painted Unlettered Only thing I'd point out is they have body mounted couplers; the coupler boxes do allow for a fair amount of lateral swing, but if you bought them figuring they would work well on tight curves (like 18" radius) you might be disappointed. My cars came with couplers body mounted in swing boxes, so the cars are rated to take the 18-inch curves on my layout. The RPOs and baggage cars were more ubiquitous and are probablylike cars rostered by ATSF and CB&Q. First(and only)place on the right. Rivarossi 1920 era passenger cars Thanks for your quick response. All the cars are in their original boxes. Painted Daylight 1941 for the San Joaquin. COLOR HO RIVAROSSI OBSERVATION TAIL CAR INTERIOR #9051 1930's AHM IHC Passenger Brand New C $38.76 or Best Offer +C $28.89 shipping from United States 18 sold Sponsored HO TRAIN RIVAROSSI TWO 1920 HW PASSENGER CAR INTERIORS COACH & PULLMAN Brand New C $57.40 Buy It Now +C $19.69 shipping from United States Sponsored Free shipping for many products! Too bad they're not running undecs (yet?) They came without lights but they did have empty rows of seats. Le migliori offerte per Vintage HO Train Car - Rivarossi Burlington Northern Dome Passenger Car #357 sono su eBay Confronta prezzi e caratteristiche di prodotti nuovi e usati Molti articoli con consegna gratis! 3) What kind of couplers are on them now? Walthers bought out Rivarossi's remaining stock of these cars and sold them under their TrainLine banner for a year or two. I painted a lot of undecorated figures, although not Mel-quality. Are they underscale? As I understand it, the new Rivarossi company owned by Hornby has the old Rivarossi molds so I think there is a good chance the entire line might get reintroduced. Well, that's another story. The aliens did it. -fm Perpetrator of the Haggis Decal Project, at, On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 00:21:44 UTC, "Christian" wrote: 2000. . Yves The Pocher factory was in Turino, Italy and the RivaRossi factory in Como, Italy. The wheel flanges are not pizza cutter type. Most of them are made to negotiate smaller radii. Later, when I took some of them off the layout to do some other work, I found that many of the Kadee wheelsets were dropping out of the trucks, and discovered that the ends of the Kadee axles were severely worn, as were the truck sideframes where the axles were seated. I have a trio of 2-8-8-2 Mallets. Off the top of my head, the RPO is a match or near-match for RPOs thatthe C&O and the Wabash used, and I /think/ the B&O, Southern and L&N. Many older CB&Qhead end cars were repainted an aluminum color in the 50's and 60's so theywould not stand out so prominently when run in trains of fluted-sidestainless steel cars. Can anyone comment about Rivarossi passenger cars? MDC Roundhouse made some 60 ft. Harriman passenger cars. I have a couple of these sets and would recommend them highly. 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I don't use diaphragms, and they didn't come with any. Thanks everyone! It was a mixture of lamp black (carbon) and YELLOW. I appreciate any info. A lot of work but I wanted to keep the car for whatever reason. No problem, Glad you found what you were looking for. I field tested this set with a Spectrum 4-4-0 on 18" EZ track. I think you may be right about Hornby (couldn't think of the name).. Athearn, MDC (Roundhouse) are now owned by Horizon, since 2005, I think. I also have A PRR GG1 (sold by AHM) and even though it is only single truck drive and underpowered, again with the large flanges it runs very well. Skip to product information. Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, Bought my set from Walthers 18 months ago, "limited quantity" etc, but no problems, they arrived in short order and good shape. Walthers Plastic HO Model Train Passenger Cars, Walthers HO Flat Car Model Train Carriages, Rivarossi HO Scale Model Railroad Passenger Cars, Rivarossi HO Scale Model Railroad Steam Locomotives . The C420 sold by Rivarossi was the old MRC/Lima one, and did run well. The Rivarossi 60's are Clerestory roofed Heavy weights, not the round roofed, at least all mine are. The new Rivarossi cars appear to be based on the same C&NW prototypes as the old Walthers cars - full RPOs in the 9413-33 series, baggage cars in various 87xx series, combines in various batches in the 74xx series, and coaches in several groups numbered between 3088 . If so, sounds great. They seemed to have dropped Athearn pass cars from the catalog all together. Espee used dark olive which was not Pullman green. They were good models for their time, but had truck mounted couplers. Sold. In stock : Ships in 1 Business Day! > Does anyone know for sure what the prototypes (if any) for these cars are?> > I did a cursory look through a bunch of my GN and PRR materials and> could not find a believable match for any of them. The smooth-side diner is based on a UP 4800-series diner (built circa 1949) The original smooth-side coach was supposedly based on a CN car, in Rivarossis last few years they produced a nice version of a UP 5450-series 44-seat coach (1953-vintage) that was also similar to some other UP coaches. They track well, run in trains mixed with Walthers cars, and roll like skates! Thanks to everyone who has chimed in. As some of the others have said, there are two different sets. If Shorter passenger cars are your thing, you might also look into ebay (or similar) for some older Athearn Blue Box kits. Rivarossi NYC Passenger Car Taken Apart John Bellucci 5K subscribers 3.4K views 7 years ago I made this video for all of those who own some of the older style passenger cars out there,. You are using an out of date browser. I "test ran" them extensively on Kato HO scale unitrack down to 22" radius curves with no problems. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. I've just recently started work on converting some Rivarossi Pullmans, coaches, and diners, along with some MDC and Walthers coach roofs, into 17 or 18 wooden head-end cars (baggage/express/postal cars, along with a battery charging car. They appear to be updates of the 40 year old Walthers metal-sided "Shorty" passenger cars. The Rivarossi cars imported by AHM roughly 1960's-1980's, and later sold here under the Rivarossi name until about 2000, are not the same cars sold 10-20 years ago under the IHC name (the ones in the bright blue boxes). I looked at these cars with interest. Both, the 41-CUDO and the 41-BNO styles are available. Many older CB&Q head end cars were repainted an aluminum color in the 50's and 60's so they would not stand out so prominently when run in trains of fluted-side stainless steel cars. I think the 60' cars all came with interiors. Don't know which one you are talking about. I have obtained a few of these sets off of e-bay. About that time, four 60' heavyweight cars (RPO, Baggage, Combine, Coach) all based on CNW prototypes came out. I've since replaced them with KDs. There is a newer set of 4 cars that are 60' long. Did you back 'em up too? if not, you can always use them to upgrade some freight cars. On the cars pictured below I replaced the stock Rivarossi "Pizza Cutter" wheels with. The RPO was placed in service on the mainline mail train and lettered for that. The cars I bought have already had body mounted couplers added so I don't need to do that. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Rivarossi Walthers 60' Heavyweight Southern Pacific 4 Car Passenger Set at the best online prices at eBay! 00 and the Y6b retailed for $29. So the first and biggest question is 1) Do they stay on the rails now? Most all of my Rivarossi/AHM cars have interiors, I add weight in the vestibules (the rectangular 'peel and stick' weights) since the cars are pretty light. 36" would be more correct but they would not clear inside the truck frame without surgery on the brake shoes. http://cgi.ebay.com/Walthers-Trainline-City-Express-Ho-ScaleTrain-Set_W0QQitemZ170136478613QQihZ007QQcategoryZ19135QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem. GQ. Rivarossi HO Scale Model Railroad Passenger Cars, Rivarossi HO Scale Model Railroad Steam Locomotives, They were kind of spartan when I bought them. Butadd more resistance which may not be a good thing. Once there was a time when about 90% of my passenger fleet was the Rivarossi-made, imported by AHM, cars. Underbody detail is cast in place, so upgrading that is harder, but hopefully you'll not be viewing them belly-up too often! They come with or without interiors. bear in mind these are the ones made several decades ago and things may have changed since then. It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. The cars are brand new old stock. The set consists of a coach, combine, RPO, and baggage. I bought the NP set in the two tone green. Thank you. rare N Scale Rivarossi the Alton Limited 6-car passenger set 9584 - 9589 train. 1) Specifically, what engine would be used to pull the ATSF or the Burlington version?2) Was the ATSF version [prototype] and the Burlington version [prototype] really the same green color, or did Rivarossi simply choose a color and apply it to both roadnames?3) What era [time frame] is suitable for these 60' passenger cars? All logos and trade names are the property of their respective owners. I also added metal wheels. I also seem to recall that the observation car may have been a business car. Coaches 2097, 2098, 2099, were similarly sized and equipped.So there's 8 passenger cars in the 70ft overall length range, certainly not a fleet but yet more than the odd singleton. I likely won't get over that way for a long time, but. They appear to be updates of the 40 year old Walthers metal-sided "Shorty" passenger cars. I pretty much agree with what has been said about Rivarossi locomotives so far. Too bad they're not running undecs (yet?) Product Notes: 1. has body mount couplers. Two new Union Pacific streamlined passenger cars of the 1950s have been released by Rivarossi. Be sure you check the gauge of your wheels, too, if you haven't already. . I have one 2-8-8-2 that has headed up a group of 237 coal cars at a local show. I will have a lot more questions soon. Thanks Don! I thought they only were produced with Chicago & NW and Pennsy road names. I recently bought an eight car, Rivarossi streamline train in CNW on ebay. It was a mixture of lamp black (carbon) and YELLOW.So, it was actually a DARK yellowish black. Perfect for the tight curves on my branchline. As you can see, Out of stock or discontinued when sold out (as all the 60'ers are).. You might also look at Con-Cor, IHC under which, a lot of the same cars were marketed. I'm looking forward to these cars, specifically the RPO and the baggage. I have ten Rivarossi heavyweight passenger cars I run with a A/B set of Athearn PAs. Super cheap? By todays standards they . Buyer's Premium 15% Lot 0232 Details. Enjoy your new engine. In later years (more the lightweight era) MANY railroads had a color they often referred to as "pullman green', and these were often some kind of dark olive green. Vendor a couple of these sets off of e-bay takes an iron man to play with a Spectrum on! 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